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Wednesday, June 04, 2025

TISCH HAS FOUND A WAY TO INCREASE THE RANKS OF NYPD AND KEEP COPS FROM TRANSFERRING TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS ..... AS A RETIRED CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROFESSOR, I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT 60 COLLEGE CREDITS WILL MAKE BETTER COPS THAN JUST 24

NYPD cops’ transfers to Orange County no longer accepted due to lower standards: ‘Should be embarrassed’ 

 

By Larry Celona, Amanda Woods and Jorge Fitz-Gibbon 
 
New York Post
Jun 3, 2025
 

NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch.
NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch lowered college credit requirements to beef up the department’s shrinking ranks.
 

New York’s Finest isn’t fine enough for one upstate county.

Officials in Orange County are snubbing the NYPD, saying they won’t take on any cops who want to transfer out of the nation’s largest and best-trained police force — because the department’s reduced recruitment standards aren’t up to snuff for them.

“This memo is to advise that the New York City Police Department has changed their minimum qualifications,” an internal Orange County human resources memo obtained by The Post said.

“As such, NYS Civil Service has confirmed for us that we are no longer permitted to allow the Sheriff’s Office or Orange County’s Town/Village Police Department to accept transfers from the New York City Police Department,” the May 19 memo to the county’s top cops and police union said.

 

NYPD promotion ceremony with Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch.
NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch lowered the recruitment standards, which bars cops from transferring out.
 

At issue is a change in the NYPD’s admission standards in February, an attempt by Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch to fill the dwindling ranks of New York’s Finest.

The changes called for the department to reduce the minimum number of college credits required to enter the police academy to 24 instead of the current 60.

But state civil service law dictates that cops can’t transfer to a new law enforcement gig if it calls for “essential tests or qualifications different from or higher than those required” at their current job.

That means any department — not just the Orange County Sheriff’s Office — that now has higher standards can no longer take in NYPD transfers.

“This shows how the standards of the NYPD have deteriorated,” retired Sgt. Mike Bosak told The Post. “We used to set the standard for the entire country. The department should be embarrassed.”

Under the state statute, an NYPD cop looking for greener pastures will have to start from scratch at the new department’s police academy, officials and law enforcement sources confirmed.

That puts a damper on a common career move for city cops who have long traded in their gigs in the five boroughs for quieter and better paying police jobs in the suburbs and upstate communities.

 

 
City officials have set a target of 35,000 NYPD cops by next year after years of dwindling ranks on the force.   

Traditional department-to-department transfers allow smaller police forces to take on veteran big city cops who are already trained and good to take to the streets.

That can’t happen now if the new department has higher requirements — which many do.

NYPD officers wanting in to Orange County have to take the civil service exam to be put on a hiring list for county law enforcement agencies, Human Resources Commissioner Langdon Chapman said.

Applicants have to be 35 to take the exam, but that number is due to rise to 42 later this year.

Chapman said new NYPD hires would require to go through training before donning the new uniform, but it is unclear if they would be require to undergo full police academy training.

Orange County officials said they’re pushing state lawmakers to tweak the law to allow NYPD cops hired under the earlier, stricter standards to transfer to a new department.

“NYPD Officers are still welcome to take the Orange County test and then become a police officer here in Orange County,” Chapman said.

“Our residents have respect for law enforcement and Orange County is a great place to work,” Chapman said. “We also encourage State Lawmakers to amend the Civil Service to address anyone hired by NYPD under their old standards to enable them to still transfer.”

NYPD brass said the department, one of the last major police forces in the country to have college credit requirements, was forced to disqualify 29%, or 2,275 applicants, in 2023 alone due to the previous standard.

The new rules also gave police recruits more credits for completing the six-month academy training regimen based on a recent assessment by the National College Credit Recommendations Service that determined that completing the rigorous training is equivalent to 45 credits, up from the current 36.

Tisch did reinstate a longstanding timed-run requirement that was axed in 2023 by controversial then-Chief of Training Juanita Holmes, which requires cops and academy recruits to complete a 1.5-mile run in under 14 minutes and 21 seconds.

According to state civil service guidelines, local jurisdictions set their own educational qualifications for new police officers and sheriff’s deputies, and determine the training requirements for new cops.

Since Oct. 16, 2021, all law enforcement officers in the state other than members of the NYPD are required to complete the state’s NYPD Basic Conversion Course within one year of being hired.

The NYPD declined to comment.

BarkGrowlBite at 12:30 PM

2 comments:

  1. bob walsh1:33 PM

    This is one of those things where IMHO the extra education is NICE but not NECESSARY for a well trained, motivated officer.

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  2. Anonymous8:27 AM

    Most community college academies now include the necessary college credits called for by most agencies in Texas. However, most agencies have dropped the number of college credits called for in the past.

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