Monday, December 20, 2010

OBAMA DISRESPECTS SOLDIERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AT AWARD CEREMONY (2)

‘michilines’ excoriated me for writing that, by the seating arrangement and the handshaking, President Obama disrespected the families of the fallen soldiers who Sgt. Giunta tried to save and the soldiers who attended the Medal of Honor ceremony at the White House.

Here is the comment ‘michilines’ made:

__Berry read an email from Clayton on the air. The details of that email were incorrect. When Berry read the email on the air, he first read how Clayton scolded him for calling SSgt. Giunta a "winner" and then referred to the previous Medal of Honor recipients as "winners."

__It surprises me that you take this at face value. By this time -- more than a month later -- there is more than enough proof that the people on the front two rows were SSgt. Giunta's family, previous Medal of Honor recipients and Secretary of Defense Gates. Didn't you think there was something wrong when the youtube video didn't show anything from the actual ceremony? Did you ever wonder if another president behaved in the same way as President Obama (two Republican presidents did)?

__Despite the ease with which you could discover that what you relied on was all a lie, you still run with it.

__That leads me to believe that you just want to perpetuate a lie: about the seating, about who was there, about the protocol. All of what you have written about it is a lie, relying on a lie.

__But you are ok with that, yes?

When I responded by saying that I’ve found Michael Berry to be reliable and would not retract what I wrote unless Berry retracted what he said, ‘michilines’ came back at me with this comment:

__I follow Berry's claims regularly, and I have contacted him about this one. He's never going to retract it because his purpose wasn't to relate the truth, but rather to perpetuate a lie. Making your retraction contingent upon Berry retracting what he broadcast means that you have that same purpose: perpetuating a lie. There are numerous sources, the Army, the White House, news services that have reported and posted photographs and video that prove the contents of Clayton's email as patently false. And despite all that, you'll wait on Michael Berry, a proven liar, before you'll correct your post?

‘michilines’, I’ve got a few words for you. YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT AND IF ANYONE IS A LIAR, IT’S YOU!

I just got through watching the whole ceremony on an MSNBC video clip. From that video, it was apparent that Michael Berry’s comments were correct. The families of the soldiers who died were seated in the third row, well behind the politicians, members of Obama’s administration and other dignitaries. And the soldiers from Giunta’s company were seated way off to the left of Obama and behind the other guests. And when the ceremony was over, Obama did start shaking hands with members of Congress and other dignitaries, not with the families and soldiers.

In my book, that’s disrespecting those families and soldiers. For this ceremony, the families and soldiers should have been seated in the front row and Obama should have shook their hands first.

I will give President Obama credit for giving an outstanding address before he placed the medal around Giunta’s neck. He recognized the soldiers and the families and called for a prolonged applause in their honor. And he hugged Giunta after he shook his hand at the end of the ceremony. The address and the hug were certainly commendable.

PLEASE NOTE what a friend who is familiar with ‘michilines’ wrote:

__Ah, Michelle strikes again. This troll teaches illegals how to speak english at UH downtown (or she used to a few years ago, she may have lost her job there by now.). she runs a blog by the name of "Calle Vienna" where she screeches her libtard vitriol and gets massively pissed off when conservatives link to her screeds in order to mock them.

__She does NOT like to be mocked. Which is of course why everyone does it. she seems to think that every conservative on the planet, knows of her personally and is personally committed to destroying her life. Her paranoia would be hilarious if she wasn't so batshit crazy. I'll be frank, she is a very small part of why I finally went ahead and got my CHL.

__I still mock her on occasion, but if she ever decides to actually ACT on her delusions, she'll get herself ventilated for her trouble. She seems to think that publishing something on the web is somehow personal and nobody except her libtard friends should ever read it or respond to it. but it is the freaking web! There are Taliban in caves on the other side of the freaking planet reading this crap.

And this is how another person who’s had run-ins with her responded to the above comment:

__Oh yeah, she's a real head case.

__I understand that Michael Berry let her have it with both barrels last week, after she went nuttier than usual. Apparently she has occasionally made some not-very-nice comments about MB's adopted son. Real classy.

__She went so crazy with profanities on my Diigo stream that after I sent a couple of examples to Diigo support, they removed her account. She really is a piece of work.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have a question. Was the seating arrangement for this ceremony (for which there appears to be some controversy) any different than for previous ceremonies? After all, there is a protocol for almost everything involving the White House. If the seating arrangement was different than for previous ceremonies, than I will have to agree with you that the Obama administration disrespected the past honorees. If it was no different, than I don't see how the case for disrespect can be made, unless you are willing to argue that the prior administrations that awarded the medal and adhered to the same protocols were also as disrespectful toward the previous recipients' families.

Rorschach said...

Michelle (I presume you to be Michelle) Medal of Honor recipients are to be saluted BEFORE the President or member of congress OR officers of higher rank. THERE IS NOTHING HIGHER on the honor scale than a Medal of Honor recipient, NOTHING. Therefore placing him and his family anywhere other than directly to the right of the Presidential podium is an affront to every Medal of Honor recipient ever selected.

Obama has NEVER followed established protocol for ANYTHING. He fired every White house Staffer that had a clue about anything and installed all of his Chicago cronies who don't know jack shit about anything (just like their boss.)

BarkGrowlBite said...

Anonymous

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

If previous administrations conducted the Medal Of Honor ceremonies in the same manner, then they too are guilty of being disrespectful as far as I am concerned.

Centurion said...

The last award to a living recipient prior to this was for service during the Vietnam War.

You're gonna have to go back a ways to research that one.

Centurion said...

Having said that, my guess is that Richard Nixon...a lieutenant commander in the Pacific theater during World War II, would have adheared to military protocol and ensured the proper seating arrangement...and other indications of respect...were rendered that recipient.