Borderland Beat deals with the war on drugs south of the border. It is a great blog, one that I always read. On June 11, in ‘A Real Debate About Drug Policy,’ Borderland Beat covered ‘The Global War On Drugs Has Failed, With Devastating Consequences For Individuals And Society Around The World,” a Wall Street Journal Op-Ed by George P. Shultz and Paul A. Volcker.
I made this comment on Borderland Beat:
"Inmates arrested for consuming drugs and for possessing small quantities of them now crowd our prisons."
You sure got that wrong! Inmates serving time for possession were busted for dealing drugs and plea bargained the charges down to a lesser offense in order to receive a shorter prison sentence.
And one really cannot say that the war on drugs has been a failure. While the use of drugs remains as high as ever, no one knows how many people refrain from using drugs because they fear the consequences of getting caught.
‘Anonymous’ then said:
Sorry BarkGrowlBite, but your "facts" are not statistically supportable.
There are, in fact, a very large number of inmates arrested for possessing and consuming small quantities of drugs. While there are a few cases that plead down from dealing to possession, that is not such a common occurrence anymore.
How do I know? My dad is a judge in Orange County CA who deals with these cases daily.
At least get your facts straight before spouting off. It makes you look foolish for taking a position that 5 seconds of fact checking can undermine.
‘Ardent’ said:
Loose dog, BarkGrowlBite, puts the fear in people!
'And one really cannot say that the war on drugs has been a failure. While the use of drugs remains as high as ever, no one knows how many people refrain from using drugs because they fear the consequences of getting caught.'
If you smoke a toke, then BarkGrowlBite is coming to get you! I love it in just how the Right Wing measures their supposed 'success'! They literally are like a pack of howling snarling wild wolves...
‘Anonymous’ said:
BarkGrowlBite said "no one knows how many people refrain from using drugs because they fear the consequences of getting caught.
You seriously think people refrain from smoking dope or snorting coke for the fear of getting caught? Unless you a referring to yourself I don't think you have a clue.
Walk across Grant Park in Chicago this weekend, the Chicago Blues Festival is going on. If you didn't know better you would think it was 1969 and you were at Woodstock. People all over the park openly smoking everything with Chicago's finest standing in plain sight. Noone has any fear of getting caught, trust me.
This is how I answered those comments:
I've got news for the Anon whose daddy is an Orange County judge. I worked closely with narcotic officers in Santa Ana, Anaheim, Buena Park, Costa Mesa and Newport Beach and I've also worked closely with the prison systems of California and Texas. So don't tell me that I've got all my facts wrong.
And the Anon who mentioned the open use of drugs in Chicago's Grant Park during the Chicago Blues Festival, you prove my point. In many instances cops no longer bother to bust dopers like yourself for simple use. It's not worth the paperwork when those busted are turned loose before the arresting officer has finished his report.
Based on my professional knowledge, those of you who continue to claim that our prisons are full of inmates serving time for possession of small amounts are the ones who are clueless.
And thanks for calling me a right-winger. I'd rather be a right-wing law enforcement type any day than a left-wing doper!
Ardent then showed his true cop-hating colors by saying:
HowlBiteandYap at 11:11am says that he is a person who 'I worked closely with narcotic officers in Santa Ana, Anaheim, Buena Park, Costa Mesa and Newport Beach and I've also worked closely with the prison systems of California and Texas. So don't tell me that I've got all my facts wrong." and spreads the US Right Winger current pc 'truth' that supposedly only big time traffickers go to jail for drug offenses in the US, with supposedly others getting good 'treatment'!...lol...
The Right Wing law enforcement sites really are pushing this take on things forcefully these days. It takes the heat off the cops by framing the debate as if it matters not in the least that 'enforcement' of US drug laws is done selectively by RACE against the 10,000,000 users of marijuana. That's right, smoke a joint and walk if you are White Anglo. If you are Latino or Black and of the lower classes, well they do tend to throw more of the full statutes at you, do they not, Mr. Law Enforcement pro? Tell the truth now, Boss Man.
'And thanks for calling me a right-winger. I'd rather be a right-wing law enforcement type any day than a left-wing doper!'
Yeah. But Why? Do hippies go around and trash Homeless and Jobless peoples' camps and ride them into jail for being basically messed over by society? No, but cops do. Proud of that, are you?
There is more of a good reason why so many hate cops than there is for the reasons given by Right Wingers for hating 'hippies'. The cops in most countries of the world, including the US, are basically a thug force in protection of the more monied classes. Just what type of person makes their 'career' doing that? Answer- Not really the nicest subgroup of people out there in the world.
Another ‘Anonymous’ came back at ‘Ardent’ by saying:
Ardie wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass. He has a massive erection for American/USA Right Wingers that completely overshadows anything he has to say - assuming he could make a point if he had a point to make.
Drug legalization is and will always be the biggest scam since the shooter on the grassy knoll. It's not going to happen. Not now, not ever. So a couple of ancient fuckers like Schultz and Volcker think they know something about it. They don't know anything. Look at the economy (Volcker), look at US foreign policy (Schultz) and tell me their influence has been good.
Everybody wants a quick fix. Hey all we need to do is legalize drugs and then tax their consumption - problem solved!! What a crock of shit. Frankly I don't care. Go ahead, make 'em all legal. It will not solve the problems you are trying to solve and the govt will not make any money.
The US is the richest country in the world and the govt has to borrow ONE-FIFTH OF A BILLION DOLLARS PER HOUR just pay the debt service on it's bonds. If you think it's about legalizing drugs - go for it.
And 'lito'brito said:
T"ard, you sound just like a two year old.."the police are just thugs"..wah wah wah..
I bet you would be the first to call 911 if you heard someone on your porch...
Pooh poohing the violence in Mexico...make fun of people in Monterrey saying they deserve a taste of what the rest of Mexico suffers..you are a real fuckn sergeant rock aren't you tough guy...but ran away from "nam" didn't you?...
You are the worst sort of chickenshit ..posing tuff while making fun of other people who know the danger ...all the while you are safe and sound the USA
You are the type of loudmouth puto that would get eaten alive if there were no police to protect you
I know you asshole ..at protests..you were the one who threw the rock and ran away ..leaving other people to get their ass beat for it
T'ardent and his army of nut riding anymouses, you need to just shut the fuck up.
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To me it was gratifying to see that of the 41 comments, there were quite a number against the legalization of drugs.
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