Saturday, August 23, 2014

ACCORDING TO JACK AND/OR JIANRE HSIUNG, OFFICER DARREN WILSON IS GUILTY OF MURDER

A reader who used the name ‘Jack’ on PACOVILLA and the name ‘Jianre Hsiung’ on BarkGrowlBite says that Wilson murdered Michael Brown because he fired more than one shot

In response to ‘Overkill?: Michael Brown Shot At Least 6 Times,’ Jack made the following comment on PACOVILLA Corrections blog:

yes. 1 shot is more than enough to stop an unarmed man….6 shots is murder!

Unless Mike Brown is a zombie, he would absolutely stopped moving forward after first shot or 2. Period. no question about it.

if you don’t believe me, imaging you, unarmed, running toward a man with a gun… would you keep running after being shot at?

no need to argue otherwise. This is murder.


Jianre Hsihung made exactly the same comment, word for word, on BarkGrowlBite.

Here is how Greg ‘Gadfly’ Doyle responded to that comment on PACOVILLA:

Jack,

Your assertion that one shot is enough to stop a six-foot-four, 300 pound, unarmed man is not based in reality, logic, or common sense. Look at the location of the shots as Dr. Baden recorded them on the drawing from his autopsy of Michael Brown. Would some of those shots be painful? Absolutely. The shot on the very top of his head might have actually glanced along the skull bone and had no immediate effect. The neck wound might eventually bleed out, but not for a few minutes. Adrenaline could keep Brown going even with a neck wound. The wounds to the arm would not be immediately fatal, and would not necessarily slow him down until he had bled a great deal.

Only the shot in the eye would guarantee incapacitation. Imagine it from the officer’s vantage point, having just been attacked and pummeled. His senses and vision would have been knocked out of whack after his eye socket had been destroyed by Mr. Brown’s fists. He is certain he is going to die, and has to make every shot count.

In all probability, the officer could not see very well and was losing his ability to fight. Under those circumstances he has every right under the law to use lethal force. He is not required to wound his assailant, but to incapacitate him in order to overcome and survive. There would be no way of determining which shot or shots struck his assailant until after the suspect fell and stopped moving.

If you have ever been in a fistfight, or sucker-punched, there are few options to successfully defend yourself and win against a larger stronger opponent. Clearly, punching a police officer in the face is an intentional attempt to incapacitate him. And it would appear by the injuries sustained by the officer, Brown intended him great bodily harm. At that point, the officer is under no obligation to wrestle with the suspect or try to use any other weapon than his firearm.

This fight took only a few seconds before the officer was on the losing end. It is self-defense, not murder, Jack.


And here is my response:

Whoa there, Jack, not so fast. You call it murder, I call it self defense. If some guy 6’4″ weighing 292 lbs. who was probably over 100 lbs. heavier than me, came at me after already busting up my face, I would shoot him and keep shooting until his sorry ass was down and out, whether that took one shot, six shots or a dozen.

And it’s obvious that you’ve had no experience in such situations. The fact that a person has been shot does not, in many cases keep him from continuing to charge at the shooter.

By the way Jack, are you Jack or Jianre Hsiung?


I got the same comment, word for word, from Jianre Hsiung on BarkGrowlBite.

Unfortunately, many people across the country, from New York to Los Angeles, from Chicago to Houston, feel the same way Jack (or Jianre Hsiung) feels.

1 comment:

bob walsh said...

Jack's comment is stupid to anybody with any actual knowledge of such things. One shot is enough only IF one shot is enough. Brown took six hits, four of which were minor or trivial. He was a BIG guy. It is obvious from his recent past ( the stop-and-rob tape) that personal violence worked for him in the recent past. It seems almost certain that he seriously injured the cop and damn near got his gun. The training is simple. If they keep coming, you keep shooting.